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PostPosted: Monday 16 Feb 2009, 10:28 
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Some interesting points made in this article, definitely worth a read.

Article from the East Anglian Daily Times - Suffolk and Essex Edition

Some particularly interesting points worth highlighting:

East Anglian Daily Times wrote:
Under the Suffolk Rural Economy Scheme, rural pubs can benefit from a cash injection of up to £5,000 to help them diversify their business to include services such as a grocery or newsagent shop to serve their local community.
East Anglian Daily Times wrote:
Nick and Debbie Sumner - landlords of the Wissett Plough - have worked hard to build their pub into a success.

On April 16 the couple will open a village store to run alongside the pub - providing villagers with a much needed service and hopefully attracting even more customers for a drink and a bite to eat.
East Anglian Daily Times wrote:
Kevin Waterson, chairman of the west Suffolk branch of the Campaign for Real Ale (CAMRA), said: "Landlords need to adapt if they are to survive and anything to help them do that has to be seen as a good thing.

"The pub trade is going through a difficult time and anything that can keep them stay alive has to be a step in the right direction."

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 Post subject: Re: Rural pubs urged to divesify to survive
PostPosted: Wednesday 18 Feb 2009, 09:43 
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It's not as simple as that. Pubs are complex businesses to run. Diversity adds more complexity. Simple and complex are opposites.

See http://hardknott.blogspot.com/2009/02/diversification.html


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PostPosted: Thursday 19 Feb 2009, 11:57 
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I don't think that anyone has suggested that running a pub is an easy business - no matter how it might look from the customers' side of the bar.

All businesses are more complex than they appear and change, whether it be diversification or consolidation, is difficult to manage. But change is essential; any business that is not responsive to change will, sooner or later, fail.

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 Post subject: Re: Rural pubs urged to divesify to survive
PostPosted: Friday 20 Feb 2009, 00:26 
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Richard English wrote:
All businesses are more complex than they appear and change, whether it be diversification or consolidation, is difficult to manage. But change is essential; any business that is not responsive to change will, sooner or later, fail.


Does anyone think though that what they face now is something new or has it happened before?

Cheers, Rob.

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 Post subject: Re: Rural pubs urged to divesify to survive
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munrobasher wrote:
Richard English wrote:
All businesses are more complex than they appear and change, whether it be diversification or consolidation, is difficult to manage. But change is essential; any business that is not responsive to change will, sooner or later, fail.


Does anyone think though that what they face now is something new or has it happened before?

Cheers, Rob.

Change has always happened -there's nothing new about that. But each change will usually be different from a previous change - that is why it's called change. Businesses, like organisms, must be responsive to change or they will become extinct.

Just cast your mind back to the 1960s (only a couple of generations ago) and look at all the changes, good and not so good, that have happened. Pubs, to cite the business to which this forum is primarily devoted, rarely served food, rarely served tea or coffee, were all closed in the afternoon, didn't admit children, were getting rid of cask beer as quickly as they could, had many customers who drove away intoxicated, unfearing of the breathaliser - and were full of tobacco smoke.

All the changes to pubs that have happened over that half a century have been seen as threats by some and opportunities by others. The opportunists who have worked with change have succeeded; many of the others have failed.

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 Post subject: Re: Rural pubs urged to divesify to survive
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Richard English wrote:
Just cast your mind back to the 1960s (only a couple of generations ago) and look at all the changes, good and not so good, that have happened. Pubs, to cite the business to which this forum is primarily devoted, rarely served food, rarely served tea or coffee, were all closed in the afternoon, didn't admit children, were getting rid of cask beer as quickly as they could, had many customers who drove away intoxicated, unfearing of the breathaliser - and were full of tobacco smoke.

Sounds like heaven to me...

And don't forget that there was a damn sight more real ale sold in those days than there is today.

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 Post subject: Re: Rural pubs urged to divesify to survive
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PeterE wrote:
Richard English wrote:
Just cast your mind back to the 1960s (only a couple of generations ago) and look at all the changes, good and not so good, that have happened. Pubs, to cite the business to which this forum is primarily devoted, rarely served food, rarely served tea or coffee, were all closed in the afternoon, didn't admit children, were getting rid of cask beer as quickly as they could, had many customers who drove away intoxicated, unfearing of the breathaliser - and were full of tobacco smoke.

Sounds like heaven to me...

And don't forget that there was a damn sight more real ale sold in those days than there is today.


As I said, some thing were good and some not so good. Remember, back then all pubs were closed from 1400 to 1700 on a Sunday - no popping in for a drink whilst you were on a Sunday afternoon walk. And if you did manage to get in before 1400 - you'd be lucky to get more than a packet of crisps to go with your pint of Watney's Red Barrel.

Ah yes. So far as Real Ale is concerned, it was actually disappearing fast, drowning under a tide of Watney's Red Barrel, Whitbread Tankard, Flowers Keg and other chemical fizz beers. Although more beer was sold back then, it was not all Real Ale - much, if not most, of it was keg (as today most of the beer sold in the UK and worldwide is chemical fizz lager).

Thanks to CAMRA the fizz tide was turned and there are now more brewers of proper beer in the UK than there has been for a century or more. But it was a near thing - as I can tell you from my personal experience of over half a century's pubgoing.

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